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  1. Pelle Lindell
    Dec 24, 2013 @ 23:31

    Scary …….

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  2. Leino
    Dec 25, 2013 @ 09:22

    Shit!!

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  3. peter g
    Dec 25, 2013 @ 09:44

    ..men fortfarande land som är farligast när man seglar.

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  4. Anders Österborg
    Dec 25, 2013 @ 10:37

    Ny grej att skroven kollapsar? T ex Farr 80:an utanför AUS, nu ersatt av nya (starkare) Botin 80 Beau Geste på Sydney-Hobart. Peter, kan du lägga upp en länk så man kan följa starten klockan 3 i natt? Ett flertal 100-fotare på linjen lockar att sätta väckarklockan :-)

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    • Peter Gustafsson
      Dec 25, 2013 @ 10:58

      Will do!

      Håller på med ett Trash Talk. Det visade sig vara mer omfattande än jag trodde… vilket inte är så konstigt inför det folk kallar “the most competitive offshore race ever” :-)

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  5. Magnus
    Dec 25, 2013 @ 12:15

    Det ser ut som att olycksplatsen inte ligger långt från kontinentalsockeln.

    http://www.thedailysail.com/files/editorial/CP_470.jpg

    Vad tror ni? Är jag fel ute om jag spekulerar i att sjön kan ha blivit fruktansvärd när de passerade sockeln i det väder som rådde?

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  6. JIMMY
    Dec 25, 2013 @ 13:13

    Undra vad detta får för konsekvenser, krav på dubbla livflottar och strängare scantling rules i Offshore Special Regs?

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  7. Pelle Fälth
    Dec 25, 2013 @ 13:52

    Skönt att det finns hjältar till hands även under jul och riktigt jäkla skitväder, force 10 och 8m vågor…

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  8. Peter Gustafsson
    Dec 25, 2013 @ 18:02

    Skall vi sätta upp ytterligare en båt på Juan Ks lista över båtar som inte blev så bra?

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    • JIMMY
      Dec 25, 2013 @ 21:54

      Hur menar du nu?

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    • Peter Gustafsson
      Dec 25, 2013 @ 22:04

      Förutom Cheminées Poujoulat står Juan K bakom Artemis (exploderade), Speedboat/Rambler 100 (tappade kölen) och några av hans VO70 höll väl inte heller ihop så bra som man hade hoppats. Snabba designer, men utan så mycket marginal :-)

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      • Thomas Wiberg
        Dec 25, 2013 @ 22:28

        De flesta av dessa “hotshot” designers gör inte sin engineering själva. Ofta är det SP/Gurits techavdelning i Southampton som hjälper dem med det. Dom har tyvärr inte världens bästa track record, utan ganska många relativt dramatiska haverier på sitt samvete såsom America´s cupbåt som gick av på mitten, Team Philips havererade jättekatta osv.

        Det är ju ingen tvekan om att Juan K ritar snabba båtar, sedan kanske han skulle må bra av att liera sig med någon som kunde göra engineeringbiten tryggare.

        Vi vet väl ännu inte orsaken till haveriet i denna tråd?

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      • JIMMY
        Dec 26, 2013 @ 00:02

        Så kan det vara, men det kan också bero på andra saker, som den enskilde båtbyggaren. Räcker med att en man inte följer en laminatspec, eller anvisning till punkt och pricka. Små avvikelser kan göra stor skillnad i dessa sammanhang! Så utan att veta exakt varför en olycka inträffat så är det väl lite väl taskigt att hänga Juan K? :)

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        • Anders Nilsson
          Dec 31, 2013 @ 11:02

          Sen designade han väl First 30 som det inte går att sätta ett riktigt SRS-tal på. ;-)))

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  9. niklas
    Dec 27, 2013 @ 11:08

    Visst har herr Stamm tur i all otur. Än en gång vid liv trots ingredienser för betydligt sämre utgång!

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  10. Peter Gustafsson
    Dec 30, 2013 @ 22:58

    http://www.yachtingworld.com/blogs/elaine-bunting/535833/rescued-sailor-s-boat-broke-in-half

    In an interview with Le Figaro, he elaborated on his earlier account of the boat breaking just behind the daggerboards. Shockingly, he says that the boat came off a wave and the bow ripped away and fractured to “45 degrees to the axis of the boat.”

    Cheminées Poujoulat was about 180 miles from Brest to 200 miles from the south-western tip of the UK at the time. Stamm explains: “The sea was formed and regular, and we were prepared to deal with this gale. We were under storm jib and had four reefs in the mainsail. Everything was under control, the boat was doing 12-13 knots on surfs and behaving very well. I was at the chart table with my co-skipper Damien Guillou when, in a wave, we heard a huge crack: the yacht had broken in two.

    “Damien immediately went on deck shouting ‘The mast has come down,’ but he immediately saw that it was the boat that was broken. The bow was at 45 degrees to the axis of the boat. I immediately closed the watertight bulkheads. Moments later, the mast fell and we set off the EPIRB because we had to leave the boat.”

    “Throughout this phase we sailed slowly at 60 per cent of our polars in order to let the worst of the storm pass ahead. On Sunday, the wind was still strong enough but eased to 35-37 knots and there was even a short time with 27 knots. We had a clear outline of the situation and what was coming behind.

    “We knew we would have three or four hours of very strong winds, but these boats are built for that. We regularly had 45-50 knots. You don’t prepare for sailing round the world sailing by sailing in Brittany in 15 knots of wind. Before the accident, we never felt the need to lie ahull, which is a possibility in excessive conditions. The boat behaved well. The front had passed.

    “The strongest wind had passed. It is important that people understand that we didn’t have 75 knots, like they had on shore. Later, when we were being rescued, the wind was stronger, but we would never had had that if we’d continued on our way.”

    “One thing is certain: while sailing underpowered, as we were, Cheminées Poujoulat could not have been pushed too hard, and that’s what is amazing,” Stamm said. “When you’re racing hard, then yes it’s hard on our boats. But we were sailing completely safely and we weren’t pushing. It is incomprehensible.

    “I need to understand why my boat broke in two like that. If the same accident were to happen in the Southern Ocean, it could be fatal. I need to understand how the failure happened and and only then can I think of what comes next.”

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  11. Sam V
    Jan 11, 2014 @ 00:27

    Det verkar som om den inte sjönk helt då flyg sett den utanför Frankrikes kust. Stamm håller på att klura på hur bärga den .
    http://www.vsail.info/2014/01/10/bernard-stamms-cheminees-poujoulat-spotted-floating-by-french-customs-patrol-aircraft/

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  12. Anders B
    Jan 12, 2014 @ 13:26

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  13. Anders B
    Jan 12, 2014 @ 13:35

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